UFO's over Kaikoura, New Zealand - 1978 - a true story!
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1978 UFOs Over New Zealand
From Gary Balderson
11-15-3
1978 December 20th - Blenheim Airbase, South Island, New Zealand Blenheim Airbase sits facing Cloudy Bay and the Cook Strait on the northern tip of the South Island, New Zealand. At eleven o'clock Ian Uffindel of the New Zealand RAF reported unusual lights in the sky: one large and two smaller lights making controlled movements and flying closely together. He added that they were not aircraft. John Cordy at Wellington Air Traffic Control Center (WATCC) confirmed targets on his scopes in the area reported by Uffindel. This was the first Radar-Visual event (RVE) in these encounters. 1978 December 21st - Cape Campbell, South Island, New Zealand Witnesses in the Cape Campbell area (45 miles north of Kaikoura) saw lights in the sky behaving in the manner of aircraft involved in a search & rescue operation - as if helicopters were using high-powered spotlights to view the terrain beneath them. WATCC detected three unidentified targets on their radar screens, one of which moved at high speed for 60 nautical miles (nm) and was estimated at the size of a commercial airliner. It stopped abruptly and remained stationary for some time. (01:20) Captain Vern Powell flying in the area reported to WATCC that he could see bright white lights from an unidentified craft. He likened them to landing lights of aircraft and added that an object appeared on his radar at the same location (RVE). (03:30) Powell indicated to WATCC that he could now see a bright red light. They confirmed that a target was on their radar to the right of his aircraft at a distance of 23 nm. It paced him for a further 12 nm (RVE). He called ATC to say that it had changed to an extremely bright light encircled with a red halo and its luminescence was still visible when it passed behind clouds. WATCC had five strong unidentified targets on their scopes in Powell's vicinity as he approached Christchurch. As he was coming in to land he reported a high-speed target moving at approximately 15,000km/h. It disappeared from his radar but he could still see a flashing white light (RVE). Later that night a large white orb dramatically buzzed another plane. They could not identify it but reported the encounter to WATCC. 1978 December 30th - Christchurch, South Island, New Zealand (23:00) A weather balloon was released from Christchurch to detect and record atmospheric conditions. Wellington, North Island, New Zealand Investigating the preceding encounters over the Cook Strait area, reporter Quentin Fogarty, cameraman David Crockett and his wife sound recordist Ngaire Crockett boarded an Argosy freight plane with Captain Bill Startup and Co-Pilot Robert Guard. Startup had 23 years experience and 14,000 hours flying time. Guard had 7000 hours flying time. (23:50) The Argosy crossed the Cook Strait. Startup reported excellent weather conditions: clear with visibility over 30 nm. In fact they could see the lights of Christchurch, which was 150 miles away. 'There is another target that just appeared on your left side at about 1 mile...' Wellington Air Traffic Control Center 1978 December 31st - Kaikoua Coastline, South Island, New Zealand (00:05) The pilots first noticed lights near to the Kaikoura coast. These lights projected a beam downwards and then disappeared. The number varied from none, to one, to many. The pilots noted that the strange lights were above the town of Kaikoura but between the aircraft and the ground in the one o'clock position at a distance of 13 nm. (NB - the December 21st sightings above) (00:12) WATCC radioed confirmation of these lights as targets on their scopes. Indeed those targets had been appearing and disappearing for the past half hour. On duty that night were Air Traffic Controller Geoffrey Causer and Bryan Chalmers, a radar maintenance technician. At this point another aircraft landed at Wellington and from then onwards the Argosy was the only plane in the sky south of Wellington Airbase. Not long afterwards WATCC reported that they had another target in the aircraft's three o'clock position but the crew could see nothing in that direction. The radar target disappeared. (00:15) The camera crew came up to the cockpit to view the objects. (00:16) WATCC notified them of a target in their twelve o'clock position at a distance of 10 nm. The crew confirmed - they saw a light in that direction. Startup: 'It was white and not very brilliant and it did not change colour or flicker. To me it looked like the tail light of an aircraft. I'm not sure how long we saw this for. Probably not very long. I did not get a chance to judge its height relative to the aircraft.' (RVE) The light disappeared and WATCC confirmed its disappearance on the next sweep of the radar but they reported a new strong target at their eleven o'clock position at a distance of 3 nm. The Argosy crew saw nothing. WATCC reported a target at nine o'clock at 2 nm. Again the crew could see nothing. Just after this they picked up a target at their ten o'clock position at a distance of 12 nm. The Captain requested permission to turn around to investigate the anomalous targets. WATCC authorised him with the caution that: 'there is another target that just appeared on your left side at about 1 mile... briefly and then disappearing again.' Although the crew were still witnessing the lights near to Kaikoura, they could see nothing of the new targets reported by Wellington. Startup put the Argosy in a turn. WATCC reported: 'The target I mentioned a moment ago is still just about 5:00 to you, stationary.' Once more nothing was visible to the crew in that direction. Causer had been picking up appearances and disappearances of targets on the scopes which correlated to the lights viewed by the crew close to Kaikoura. 'There is a strong target right in formation with you. Could be right or left. Your target has doubled in size.' Wellington Air Traffic Control Center The Kaikoura Coastline (00:27) With the Argosy now moving back along its flight path towards Wellington Airbase Causer reported another target in their twelve o'clock position three miles distant. Startup responded: 'We pick it up. It's got a flashing light.' He reported seeing: 'a couple of very bright blue-white lights, flashing regularly at a rapid rate. They looked like the strobe lights of a Boeing 737...' (NB - the Argosy was the only aircraft in the area at the time) (RVE) (00:28) The Argosy turned back towards Christchurch and WATCC reported that all the targets were now 12 - 15 nm behind them. (00:29) WATCC notified the pilots of a target one mile behind the aircraft in their six o'clock position, which soon vanished. (00:30) Another target appeared on the radar at 4 miles behind the plane. It vanished. Next came a target at three o'clock, again at 4 nm. (00:31) WATCC: 'There is a strong target right in formation with you. Could be right or left. Your target has doubled in size.' This is known as a Double Size Target (DST). Growing increasingly worried the Copilot (Guard) looked out of the right windows and saw a light: 'It was like the fixed navigation lights on a small airplane when one passes you at night. It was much smaller than the really big ones we had seen over Kaikoura. At regular intervals it appeared to flash, but it didn't flash on and off; it brightened or perhaps twinkled around the edges. When it did this I could see a colour, a slight tinge of green or perhaps red. It's very difficult describing a small light you see at night.' (RVE) Startup checked their environment, seeing: coastal lights, and the lights of Japanese squid boats on his far left (east) horizon. He saw no running lights of boats, which implies that there were no boats in the area. When Guard reported the light out of the right hand window, Startup turned off the green navigation light on the right wing to make viewing easier. The town lights of Kaikoura were now behind the mountains and not visible. (Claims were made after this incident that the light witnessed by the crew was a beacon light on the end of the peninsula, but the witnesses testified to the light being level with the plane - ie. well above ground level). Fogarty commented: 'I'm looking over towards the right of the aircraft and we have an object confirmed by Wellington radar. It's been following us for quite a while. It's about four miles away and looks like a very faint star, but then it emits a bright white and green light.' (RVE) Startup then told WATCC: 'Got a target at 3:00 just behind us.' WATCC responded: 'Roger, and going around to 4:00 at 4 miles.' The Kaikoura Peninsula (00:33) WATCC informed Christchurch Air Traffic Control (CATCC) that they had a target at five o'clock to the Argosy at a distance of 10 miles. CATCC could not confirm. WATCC said: '...not moving, not too much speed... It is moving in an easterly direction now.' (00:35) WATCC: 'The target you mentioned, the last one we mentioned, make it 5:00 at 4 miles previously, did you see anything?' Startup: 'We saw that one. It came up at 4:00, I think, around 4 miles away.' WATCC: 'Roger, that target is still stationary. It's now 6:00 to you at about 15 miles and it's been joined by two other targets.' (RVE) (NB - Uffindel's report from Blenheim - above) (00:36) WATCC informed the Argosy that the three targets had now merged on their scopes. Startup requested permission to do another turn to investigate and permission was granted. Despite this brief investigation, the crew saw nothing. (00:39) The Argosy continued on its way to Christchurch. CATCC reported to the plane that a target was pacing the aircraft to their west overland. Guard checked the window and saw a rapidly-moving light in that direction. (RVE) The Argosy went on to land at the airbase. 'It turned with us as I changed course... It was making definite movements in relation to us' --Captain Bill Startup Christchurch, South Island, New Zealand (02:00 - 03:00) Dennis Grant replaced Ngaire Crockett, who did not want to return to the area where these Ufos were flying. The Argosy took off again at 2:15am on its return journey. Not long after take off the crew saw two more objects. David Crockett saw a sphere with lateral lines around it which was spinning. CATCC confirmed that this object was swaying continuously on their scopes for four minutes. The object moved in relation to the aircraft, suggesting intelligent control, and was estimated to be the size of a house. The crew saw two pulsating lights, one of which suddenly descended in a blurred streak for 1000ft/300m before ascending in a series of jerky movements. Points To Note The Royal New Zealand Air Force put a Skyhawk jet fighter on full alert to intercept any other Ufos which might appear. Examination of the film and computer enhancement concurs that the footage is genuine. The radar technician, Bryan Chalmers, responsible for maintaining the radar, checked it for evidence of anomalous propogation/refractive beam bending during the sightings. These tests prove that atmospheric refraction could not account for the radar sightings. Although a dark object against a light sky could be seen from 30 miles or more away, a light object against a dark sky could be seen from more than 100 miles. Turbulence and atmospheric refraction could to some degree be attributed to the radar angels (unknown targets) towards the coastline. Strong reflectors of radar on the ground might appear to move around on the scope due to the strong refraction. But for this explanation to work off the coast would mean that there were numerous strong reflectors on the ocean spread out over a wide area due to the multitude of targets picked up during the Argosy's flights, which is unlikely given that no running lights could be seen by the cabin crew. Furthermore any boats on the ocean should not have shown up on the radar scope because it has a filter which screens any such targets. The sensitivity of the radar scopes at Wellington means that Clear Air Turbulence (CAT) or birds/insects/weather would not have been detected beyond 50 nm. The Argosy was 82 nm from WATCC at the time of the DST.
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Thanks for your comments. I am open minded about the whole UFO thing. Why shouldn't there be other life forces out there who are much more advanced than us.
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longest distance combat mission in history: 35 hours in the B52 so do you get my point!Fact or ficton!
I spoke to one person who worket at Nasa and she say that one person could fly to mars for a 3 year trip limited buy there food and water in one of therse silver disk!.....seen just 30 years after the war thats olny 1980ts'''WoW
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well peter we need for others to comment about there expereince with Kaikoura and 1978 sighting for us to bleve it or do!
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A House Fly And A ufo..
Think about this !...Theres some thing I need to know here.
How do I explane with my UFO incounter....
And how it flew like a house Fly!
What we see and our Time And simulation to relatie. From light spectrim.
You know when you chace a fly around the room
The present sight of the fly slows down absolute only as long as it does not have to face its overriding solar light motion and sesoncery and popection ..
I think Iv over explaned it but thats what I need help with ...
Er' ok we are talking about forces what we alredy know !
The house fly will go faster but its poception on reality Real time will slow down the Fly
faster it flys thats why it is so hard to catch unless your a black belt! who youse the yen yang thing out site this time Squair and space...
Do flys have this super phnoname (spelling sorry)our why dose a race car driver sencers actuall slow down?
This is concerded to be pathlogic By A Drs view point With F1 Race car Drivers
Time realy seems to slow down for them even normel nerotipcail peopel when facein a near deth experenice Yet the race car driver is not thinking he is going to die his subconioues may .Eny way off the subject About The Fly and The movement of My Ufo incounter.
I think our bodys overlaps in between out side our interuptation of the now Real Time , which is both – space and time; hence in context of non-local or double symmetry,like gravity is duality of enveloping (relative) space and time (within and without local space/time). It’s a gravity within gravity within gravity, each separated into space/time duality that’s light speed difference from space/time without and/or within. In 3D context, difference is 2D, hence it’s inertia and inertia of inertia or gravity and gravity of gravity (antigravity). It’s double symmetry of non-local asymmetry and/or vice versa.
For The peopel with Autism can speck in physics and understand at dihedural levels.The fellowing will explainei.e. C/(1/C)=C², where C –light speed, is seenhence incorporation of space within/space without into double space or mass of such empty space.I think most of us will just go back and think About the fly!1 - Totol attom mass for time in our reality Real time to us2- relative ufo or fly time to us3- Macron Enegy- A lurge mass of engine power out side this time and space Black bealt yea yean!3- 3D context, difference is 2D visual of light spectrim4-Free space charactionshion and mathamatics that simulate realatiyoh god ! how I see houes Flys ..This sight has alloud me to speck on subject that are tabo .or so freeky peoplel just get up and walk away from..And not the matrax of our out of time that we are all blind to see..By The wayI hated the matrax movie ..I cant youse this as an exampel with out peopel talking of thinking about the movie..please comment and have our views on some of knowlage on Ufo UFO's over Kaikoura please wright on this blog. Your views..
Getting a bit deep for me David, I deal in facts that can be discussed and disputed. The authorities are in many cases too thick to understand.
A man with a IQ of 184 3 years ago
Electro Magnetic Theory on Vector Field.like really old stuff I keep up with the new stuffI have Aspergers and super smart so please read.The SR 71 black bird 11 years older than my vintage tractorOk Im worrying that some thing might happen in 2012.Yes I have seen A ufo ! I did ! so did 1500 peopel in Newzealand back in 1978 so did my pilot freind.I look back at it the old tapes from the news and think it was a natrail phnoman .called clear air lightning engey balls .A gie called david suzuki explaned it .I have seen the odd silver disk and think I am still opend minded to that that I could create my own idear on what I seen .I work as A security officer and have seen a ufo .and I fly mircrolights as a hobby .The silver disk was not in this gravty feald .I was 1.5 km away I dont want to have any thin to do with these little green peopel no thank you.its seid you dont change direction in flight path to quickly in some survivel hand book I seen .I except that we are not alone or the airforce has got some random stuff from hitler.Kaikoura has a magnetic pole minrel belt thing right to the south pole .and I have found a refueling site from B 52 aircraft that there was a bace up there from the south island farm land .I would not wast my time and lie or wast other peopels time and would like to hack a usa air force for in formation wouldent you ! please reply.